Agnew donates rental property to church

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Dr. Theodore L. Agnew Jr., Emeritus Professor of History at Oklahoma State University, will donate his rental property on Bellis Street in Stillwater to the United Methodist Church through the Oklahoma Conference Foundation, his family announced today.

The property will be presented in a brief ceremony on Thursday, April 6, 11:30 am, at the First United Methodist Church, 400 West Seventh Street, in Stillwater. Receiving the gift on behalf of the Oklahoma Conference Foundation will be David Battles, Vice President for Planned Giving. An opportunity for questions and photographs will follow the presentation.

Dr. Agnew’s property consists of a single-story house located in the area to be occupied by the OSU Athletic Village, as designated in the OSU Master Plan approved by the Board of Regents on March 3.

“I am pleased to be able to make this gift as an Agnew Family Endowment which will be available to promote the causes of United Methodism in years ahead,” Dr. Agnew said.

Supporting Dr. Agnew in his gift are his five children, Theodore Lee Agnew III, Susan Elizabeth Agnew, Hugh LeCaine Agnew, Peter Wallace Agnew, and Marion Jeanne Agnew.

Dr. Agnew may be contacted for more information or further questions at 405-372-9404.

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4 Comments

  1. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    April 5, 2006 at 10:39 pm

    What a generous gift to your community that will benefit a very honorable and worthy cause. It is a lovely gesture that balances the sad loss of the neighborhoods in this area.

  2. Lee Agnew said,

    April 6, 2006 at 5:50 pm

    It may be presumptuous to comment on my own story, and more so to try to speak for my father. But Dad and I have had people asking us questions, both about his intentions, and the long-term future of the property (one reporter asked Dad if he was trying to “sabotage eminent domain!”), so I thought I’d address them in this excerpt from my own blog entry from last week:

    “Here’s the dilemma [our father] had faced, along with the other property owners: With the Board of Regents’ approval of the Master Plan, his choices were either (a.) sell to OSU as a ‘willing seller’ for what they offer, or (b.) force OSU to take him to court under Eminent Domain, spend lots of money on lawyers, maybe not get as much for the house as he would have under option ‘a,’ and lose the house to OSU eventually anyway.

    “When Dad donates his house to his church, the church will turn right around and sell it to OSU — but Dad gets a tax deduction for the donation, and an annuity from the endowment. He doesn’t have to pay tax on the capital gains from rental property appreciation. Neither does he have to pretend he’s a ‘willing seller’ when he isn’t, or go through the ordeal of a court fight. In the words of my sister Marion, he gets ‘the chance to do ONE part of this the way he actually WANTS to.’ And making the statement that he’d rather give his house away than sell it to OSU carries a certain weight of its own.

    My brothers and sisters and I applaud his action, and support his decision wholeheartedly. And we remain concerned about, and angry on behalf of, the other homeowners who are not in a position to make that kind of gesture.”

    In this context, I would especially like to emphasize that last sentence.

  3. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    April 7, 2006 at 9:28 am

    It makes me angry too, that any one of us who own property in this area would even have to make these type of decisions. In my family’s view, we were not willing sellers, my mother would never have planned to move from her home at all. As we pack her possessions and move her many memories , it is difficult and sad because it was so unecessary.This was not a project of great need that would have solved world hunger, global warming or provided space for a research facility to cure cancer. It is lakes and tennis courts and athletic facilties for the few. Mom wanted to hold out, but she began to have health problems and OSU was not worth our precious mother.

  4. Slow Pitch Bats said,

    June 6, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Fantastic story, great strategy, I hate Eminent Domain. It is so easily abused now and the pricing structures are so under market value. It is time to reign in Eminent Domain.

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Wall Street Journal

Boone Pickens’s Gift
To Oklahoma State
Sparks Local Rivalry

Some Neighbors Jeer Plans
For Huge Sports Complex;
Lampooning the Largess
By RYAN CHITTUM
March 30, 2006; Page A1

STILLWATER, Okla. — Boone Pickens has seen legendary fights over oil and corporate takeovers. Now, a giant gift to help his alma mater build a huge sports complex — and a winning football team — has plunged him into a different kind of battle, with residents of a low-income neighborhood.

Mr. Pickens’s recent $165 million contribution to build new sports facilities at Oklahoma State University is the largest single donation made to a U.S. collegiate athletic program and more than half the size of the university’s entire endowment.

OSU wants to use the money to expand its football stadium and build an “athletic village” complete with practice fields and new stadiums for soccer, baseball and other sports. But to do so, it will have to clear out a large residential area adjacent to the campus.

The university owns part of the 100-acre tract and is offering buyouts for the rest — deals that have some people balking and refusing to leave. The plan puts Mr. Pickens at the center of a skirmish featuring tenants, property owners and the university.

Last month, community members packed the local library to hear OSU officials present the latest details of the plan, which is backed by the state’s power of eminent domain. Some attendees cried, and others groaned. A question-and-answer session with OSU President David Schmidly drew boos and emotional exchanges from the crowd.

“My house and my home is my special building,” said longtime resident Liz Doyel. “You’re trying to steal it.”

“I’m not a thief,” Mr. Schmidly replied.

Calvin Anthony, a pharmacist and chairman of the local Chamber of Commerce, supports the plan because he believes it will be good for both the school and local business. He told people in the crowd they should thank Mr. Schmidly for meeting with them despite the intense opposition. “He may feel like a long-tailed cat in a roomful of rocking chairs,” he said.

Here in Stillwater, a city of 39,000, the plan stands to affect hundreds of people — from students to pensioners — who say they can’t afford higher housing costs. OSU says 550 students currently live in the neighborhood, but it is unable to provide total population figures. According to geoVue Inc., a company that culls demographic information for commercial real-estate searches, there were 1,315 people living in 725 housing units in the area as of 2004. The median household income of those over the age of 25 was about $20,000 as of 2000.

Mr. Pickens, 77 years old, isn’t sentimental about razing the neighborhood. “You look at it and think ‘Gosh Almighty, we’ve got to get this stuff out of here,’” he says. “I mean, it’s so bad looking. Those houses are in horrible condition.”

On March 3, the Board of Regents unanimously approved the athletics plan, which calls for the demolition of many properties by year’s end. About one-fifth of the owners, however, still refuse to engage in price negotiations — and some have threatened to stand up to the bulldozers. Mr. Pickens, meanwhile, says he recently met with university officials to discuss how to speed up the process. “It’s gonna get done so we might as well get at it,” he says.

Over the past 25 years, Mr. Pickens has given about $250 million to OSU. The bulk of contributions were in the past three years, with about 80% of the total earmarked for athletics.

Mr. Pickens, whose spokesman says he has a net worth “in excess of $2 billion,” made his fortune running the Irving, Texas-based Mesa Petroleum Co. (now called Pioneer Natural Resources Co. and unaffiliated with Mr. Pickens). In the 1980s, he earned fame attempting corporate takeovers.

An Oklahoma native, Mr. Pickens first attended Texas A&M. The school took away his basketball scholarship — “I wasn’t good enough,” he says — so he went to Stillwater to enroll in what was then Oklahoma A&M. Mr. Pickens tried out, unsuccessfully, for legendary coach Henry Iba’s basketball team. In 1946 it was the last OSU squad to win a national basketball or football championship. He graduated in 1951 with a degree in geology.

A rendering of the expanded OSU Boone Pickens Stadium, now under construction.

Today at OSU, Mr. Pickens’s influence extends well beyond the treasury. Last year, the billionaire recommended the appointments of football coach Mike Gundy and Athletic Director Mike Holder. The latter is a longtime quail-hunting buddy of Mr. Pickens who was formerly the school’s golf coach. While Mr. Schmidly, the university president, says Mr. Pickens has no veto power over any decisions, he acknowledges that the appointments “had a lot to do with Boone gaining confidence” to make his record contribution.

That happened just after Christmas of 2005. Mr. Holder met with Mr. Pickens in his Dallas office to pitch the idea for a sports complex, to be built near Boone Pickens Stadium, the football facility named for him in 2003. Mr. Holder had been angling for a big donation, throwing out numbers Mr. Pickens called “ludicrous.”

A day after the meeting, Mr. Pickens wired $165 million to the university, enough to cover more than half of the $300 million project’s costs. The funds were almost immediately invested in a hedge fund controlled by Mr. Pickens — a move that drew some criticism and was the subject of a New York Times article. Mr. Pickens says the fund has waived all fees.

Chris Stellman, an OSU senior who would be displaced by the project, created an online comic strip lampooning the university as “Boone State” and featuring Mr. Schmidly bowing to Mr. Pickens’s every whim. One strip depicts Mr. Pickens talking about building the football team a day spa.

Although some locals resist the plan on principle, others are haggling over price. Opponents say OSU is offering owners about 70% of the assessed value of their properties. They complain the university has them over a barrel by threatening to use eminent domain, the legal process that allows government-related entities (including public colleges) to appropriate private property for the public benefit.

The university says it doesn’t want to use eminent domain, though will as a “last resort” if property owners refuse to sell, Mr. Schmidly says.

County assessor Jacquie Rose describes OSU’s offers for property in the area, where the median home price is about $70,000, as “low.” Mr. Schmidly counters that the assessed values are too high. Instead, the university’s buyouts prices are equal to 105% of its own appraiser’s estimates. The university is also paying a “longevity bonus” to homeowners based on years of occupancy, plus moving expenses.

If Mr. Pickens’s largess boosts OSU’s football team as he hopes, he and university officials expect other benefits to follow — in both sports and academic programs. At rival University of Oklahoma, about 70 miles south, a national football championship in 2000 spurred a $110 million fund-raising campaign that renovated and expanded its stadium, according to school officials there. Applications for enrollment soared and the school had to turn away students for its incoming freshman classes for the first time.

Ryan Chittum
The Wall Street Journal
200 Liberty St., 12th Floor
New York, NY 10281
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ryan.chittum@wsj.com

9 Comments

  1. Lee Agnew said,

    March 30, 2006 at 3:22 pm

    “You look at it and think ‘Gosh Almighty, we’ve got to get this stuff out of here,’” [Pickens] says. “I mean, it’s so bad looking. Those houses are in horrible condition.”

    I hope this incredible piece of arrogance is spread far and wide over Stillwater and gets the reaction it deserves.

    Or should we apologize for the fact that our “Good Old Town” doesn’t meet Pickens’ standards?

    Of course some of the property has not been well maintained — especially those units owned by out-of-state absentee landlords. And when a large and expanding institution impinges on a residential area, banks and lenders often feel “why bother?”

    But a lot of the property still looks pretty darn good, thank you very much, considering everything. I took some pictures last weekend. Perhaps people should judge for themselves: http://geezerlee.livejournal.com/71403.html

  2. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    March 30, 2006 at 4:45 pm

    Lee, Thank you so much for visiting my mom, this has been so hard for her. It was nice to see the pictures, she is so proud of her home and yard and will miss all the plants she has in her yard. We are going to try and save as much as possible. It is a beautiful neighborhood and people do care about their yards and homes. I was insulted by Pickens quote in the Wall Street Journal and sent a reply, dont think they will print it , but had to do it.

  3. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    March 30, 2006 at 4:50 pm

    My reply to the Wall Street Journal:

    Mr. Chittum:
    I read your story today concerning the Athletic Village expansion. My mother is 78 years old and has lived in her home for 57 years. Her home’s location is slated for a pair of twin lakes adjacent to the Tennis Center. I take exception to Mr.Pickens charactization of the homes as”needing to be torn down”. Her home has been lovingly maintained for nearly six decades and she has spent nearly $50,000 in the last ten years on upgrades such as landscaping, new roof, new carpeting, an almost total remodel. In the area she is located in are 40 plus longtime homeowners who have lived there for many decades.

    This has been a traumatic experience for homeowners, they have been treated with an incredible lack of respect. Most of these homeowners were avid OSU supporters and many are retired from OSU from all areas, they did not deserve this. After four months of uncertainty, we had to settle with OSU, my mother’s health began to show signs of trouble. We are angry with the University, they could have done so much more for homeowners. We discovered at closing, that OSU had researched the abstracts on my mother’s property, eight months prior to the closing. They only informed my mother by letter, four months prior. They could have let the community know what was going to occur, they could have set up relocation teams to assist with moves, help find adequate homes,etc, the bonus they paid of $300 is a joke, that will not begin to cover the taxes, house insurance and mortgages most of these seniors will have to pay on new homes. My mother’s home had been mortgage free for 30 years, we are moving her to a new home in two weeks and to a new mortgage. This project was planned long before November 2005, this must have been in the works for at least one to two years. They have given no help on helping seniors on their moves, nothing, these people have been left to fend for themselves. It is disgusting and I fail to see how a lake on my mothers property will help educate young minds. That should be the goal of this university, not taking peoples homes.

    Tamara Colbert-Maschino

  4. Russell said,

    March 31, 2006 at 10:43 am

    I would love to know if you get a response to the letter you sent or that it was published in the WSJ …

  5. Leonard G. Herron III said,

    March 31, 2006 at 4:32 pm

    Tammie, I hate to hear that your mother is being forced out. I told Mr. Clarke that my mother and sister at 1110 N. Bellis would not be able to even consider a move until at least two years after the death of my father who will be 90 on the first of June. The offer that they received was about $20,000 below the current Payne County fair market value. We have told them that the property currently is not for sale. Mr. Clarke told me that he didn’t believe that OSU would use eminent domain on my parents. I hope his statement is correct. After a while one would think that one would get use to the arrogance of these people but I am having a difficult time.

    Leonard G. Herron III

  6. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    April 2, 2006 at 4:01 pm

    Russell,
    I did get a response from the Wall Street Journal, Mr. Chittum sent a kind note, I am not sure if they published my letter yet.

  7. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    April 2, 2006 at 4:04 pm

    Leonard,
    It is a sad time for our neighborhood, I am sorry our folks are having to deal with this mess at this time in their lives. They have too much to deal with just living and dealing with illness without being worried about losing their homes of decades. I am not sure I will be able to forgive the University for doing this to our families.

  8. Lee Agnew said,

    April 3, 2006 at 11:31 am

    I hope somebody sends something to the News-Press about the Pickens quote, for the benefit of those who don’t read the Wall Street Journal regularly. Hint, hint?

  9. Beverly Kargel said,

    April 4, 2006 at 2:31 pm

    Ann, My friend, Vona Parrish just called. She will close with OSU Friday. She asked me to pass this on. Yesterday she received a letter from atty John Severe offering an hour of free consultation on eminent domain. She was sorry she missed the opportunity but wanted to pass the information along to anyone who could still use it. I know a lot of people come to you for help and you may already have this information but just in case. I voted for mayor today for the first time ever. Beverly

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Cinnabar: Name of sender withheld

Ms. Williams:
I sent this out bcc to a number of people on Faculty Council and to the Boone State guys. I don’t know whether you ever received it. A later story in the Tulsa World stated that Cinnabar’s contract with the Tulsa Airport was terminated with the work done on the noise retrofits resulting in management fees per house of $14,000! I think they are a sleazy, but well-connected, outfit. What is their link to Gary Clark? I wonder if their contract with the Foundation can be accessed or whether it is immune to public records claims because it is with the Foundation, not OSU? I would like to see what their true incentives are for taking advantage of property owners. I think this would refute Schmidly’s claims that the Foundation and OSU had the property owner’s well-being at heart.

I also believe that the Foundation’s reinvestment of Picken’s $165 million in his hedge fund is not sound fiscal management and would not pass any proper financial scrutiny. In the pension fund (including Teacher’s Retirement) story in the Oklahoman over the weekend, the State Treasurer was quoted saying that hedge funds were too risky for public investments. Again, this move may be hidden from public access because it is with the Foundation, not OSU. I think someone should raise the issue of whether this good ol’ boy, sloppy paperwork, and risky investment scheme in one fund(Holder as investment officer!) could impact OSU’s standing for any future bond issues. I can’t believe that it even would meet the rules governing the Foundation at this point. I bet bonds are coming, too.

Cinnabar Services Company, the buyer of homes in the OSU Athletic Village project, seems to have a little baggage. The Tulsa Airport authority cut off its contract for noise abatement projects in neighborhoods around the Tulsa Airport. The company principals, Bacon and Parmele, also are two of the principals in IVI, which proposed the infamous private toll bridge in south Tulsa. They may even have done this after, as Cinnabar, they did a study on the project. The company seems very well connected in Tulsa politics. The stories I have read seem to suggest that Parmele has had posts that could involve conflicts of interest. I am sure there could be more. Please pass this along.

http://www.cinnabar.cc/cschomepage.htm

http://www.urbantulsa.com/article.asp?id=2927

http://www.tulsaworld.cc/cinnabarservice.html

http://www.movethatbridge.com/MoveThatBridgeTulsaWorldArticles.htm

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:GM4QZ24FAe4J:www.tulsaairports.com/taa/documents/lettertonoiseprogramparticipants-10-06-05.doc+Cinnabar+Service+Co&hl=en

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=2&TOPIC_ID=1235奖

http://www.batesline.com/archives/001920.html

http://news.pajamasmedia.com/2005/12/28/6793911_Noise_plan_contr.shtml

http://www.cleanuptexaspolitics.com/images/TollCorridorMoney.pdf

http://www.millproject.org/pdf/forced.pdf

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Trial

On Friday, Jan. 6th, in District Court, Judge Worthington decided in favor of the defendants, Jane Earnest, Robert Maurizzi, Jimmy Burns and the Payne Country Treasurer, thus denying the Board of Regents’ motion for protective order which would have prevented Earnest/Maurizzi et al from conducting discovery, requesting the production of documents, and requesting admissions regarding at least two property acquisitions in the Scott Street area.

This judgment can be appealed, of course. If you want to read the record of the entire Jane Earnest case, go to (Note! you may receive a message saying the site is “currently offline for maintenance” — try again later, though):

Case Information on Oklahoma State Courts Network

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Important meetings

Some important meetings that relate to OSU’s Master Plan Proposal are occurring this week — this is rather short notice but the agendas were just posted yesterday. The full agendas of each of these meetings can be reviewed by going to:

http://www.stillwater.org/

From there, look to the left side of the page and you’ll see CURRENT AGENDAS. Click on Commissions > City Commission > January. All three meetings are shown with their attached agendas.

If you have trouble viewing these online, here’s a synopsis of the schedules:

The Stillwater City Commission and OSU Coordinating Meeting…
will be held at 4:00 p.m., Monday, Jan. 9th, Commission Hearing Room, Stillwater Municipal Bldg., 723 S. Lewis

This is the quarterly meeting between OSU and the City Commission and some of the agenda items include:

Traffic Study for Hall of Fame
OSU Electric Service Contract
Lake Carl Blackwell Dam
Multi-Modal Facility (planned for construction between Hall of Fame and Connell, east of Monroe)

Immediately following the quarterly coordinating meeting will be a meeting of the Use Tax Oversight Committee…

#3 on the agenda states: “Review and discuss the memorandum of understanding and the use tax transfer agreement between Oklahoma State University and the City of Stillwater relating to use tax revenues.”

And, the Stillwater City Commission Meeting…
held at 6:30 p.m., Monday, Jan. 9th, Commission Hearing Room, Stillwater Municipal Bldg., 723 S. Lewis

The only topic seemingly related to the proposed OSU Master Plan will probably be discussed in Executive Session (not publicly) and it is described as “potential litigation brought against the City of Stillwater by third parties opposing the proposed closing of portions of Monroe Street and Hall of Fame Avenue.”

You can watch the City Commission meeting on Channel 23 – the two other meetings will not be televised.

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Malinda Berry Fischer

Malinda Berry Fischer is no longer chairman of the Board of Trustees of the OSU Foundation. I saw her at a social gathering last evening and she said she was no longer serving in that capacity. Sorry about that. OSU Foundation, apparently has not updated their information.

10 Comments

  1. Anon said,

    December 20, 2005 at 9:32 am

    seems to me the foundation…[SNIP - Admin Note: It was brought to my attention by the administrator assistant that this comment was entered with an invalid e-mail address. In accordance with the posting rules stated on the home page it has been deleted.]

  2. Anon said,

    December 20, 2005 at 11:48 am

    It is true that the Foundation probably did not originate this plan, but by carrying it out they are complicit. Some good people have left the foundation recently, which could lead one to believe that those people still affiliated with OSUF are willing to go along with Schmidly/Pickens whether or not S/P plans and the tactics used to implement them are ethical.

  3. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    December 20, 2005 at 12:20 pm

    Did anyone read the Daily Oklahoman article on the Boone Pickens graduation speech, his comments in the article are listed below:

    “After his morning speech, Pickens told The Oklahoman he wants to see OSU’s proposed athletic village built quickly. Pickens has pledged $30 million to help the university acquire about 100 acres of land for the village — a potential purchase that would displace residents of about 310 houses, duplexes and apartment buildings.

    “Look at me,” he said. “I’m 77. I don’t have a five-year plan. I mean, I don’t have. I’m in a hurry to do things, and I want to see us attain the level … to be in contention. I don’t think we’re going to, you know, go in and win every game. I’m not silly enough to think that.

    “But I want when we play and the game’s over that the opposing team knows they had a contest — it was tough — and our guys leave the field head up and our fans leave the field head up.”

    Those comments are alarming, it shows that the foundation and OSU will be under tremendous pressure to push this project on residents. I am concerned that the speed of this push will put homeowners and property owners into a position of not knowing all the options and what the best solution would be.

    Pickens speaks of being 77 and therefore not able to have a five year plan, how callous, my mother is also 77 and being forced out of her home and then not given replacement value or proper considerations and having to move at her age was also not part of any five year plan. Does he not realize how long these residents have lived in their homes or own property in the area. He is “In a Hurry”, well he will just have to slow down and give these people a chance.

  4. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    December 20, 2005 at 12:25 pm

    Here is a link to the entire article at the Daily Oklahoman website
    Boone
    Speaks to OSU Grads

    Shortcut to: http://newsok.com/article/1708697/

  5. Marion Agnew said,

    December 20, 2005 at 3:15 pm

    About the Foundation: it is part of the process of acquiring this land. If people who work at the Foundation are bothered by something that’s happening, well, their organization has an established chain of command and possibly a formal grievance process. They can either take their concerns up the chain of command or register them using the grievance process.

    If going through the established procedure doesn’t resolve anything, a Foundation employee who’s unhappy with this process has the same recourse we do — they can talk to Regents and to their elected officials. In fact, their chain of command may end at the Regents or the Governor.

    If someone at the Foundation is afraid to disagree with this course of action for fear of losing his or her job, that in itself shows a problem at the Foundation.

    Each person who works at OSU, whether it’s in the athletic department, in the alumni association, in the Foundation, or as a faculty or staff member, has to decide how he or she will behave in this situation.

    The worst thing any of them — or us — can do is object to what’s happening but stay silent and hope for the best.

  6. Anon said,

    December 20, 2005 at 3:52 pm

    We have a alumnus who is willing to pony up $30M+ … can you imagine how outraged the citizens of Stillwater would be if OSU said no thanks?

  7. Bob Kargel said,

    December 20, 2005 at 4:43 pm

    to Anon: I am a citizen and would not be outraged if OSU said no to Boone Pickens money. I think people being able to keep their homes is more important than a playground for a bunch of athletes. This university got along fine before Pickens and Holder took over the reins. What if this plan goes thru and OSU still doesn’t compete with others in the Big Twelve, will they take over the whole town? __And I have enough guts to give my name.

  8. Marion Agnew said,

    December 20, 2005 at 6:55 pm

    Not only that, but a president worth his salary would say to Pickens, “We appreciate your interest. How about we use this money for this other purpose over here?”

    They could maybe even finish the stadium that bears the Pickens name before they start construction on something they don’t have the money to finish.

    And personally, if OSU were to lose this $30 million by saying “if we can’t use it for a better purpose than that, no thanks,” I would be proud.

  9. Mixer said,

    December 20, 2005 at 8:57 pm

    ::: What if this plan goes thru and OSU still doesn’t compete with others in the Big Twelve, will they take over the whole town? :::

    Don’t laugh, there’s a map that shows OSU expanding east to Boomer/Main and south to Sixth street - and beyond. Someone I talk to regularly has told me that OSU’s reach will in time encompass all the housing south and west of the university along sixth street to Western. It’s been called the “50 year plan”. If they move south all the way to 12th, then nearly all the older houses in Stillwater would fall under OSU’s domain.

  10. Dr. Ted Douglas said,

    December 20, 2005 at 10:35 pm

    A gift is given without regard to what is done with it. When you attach strings to the gift that’s called prostitution. We now know what the price of the university is, I wonder what else they’ll be willing to do for money? Heck, wasn’t that long ago that we were paying athletes to become the best in the country. MAYBE money doesn’t have anything to do with how good a team you field.

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The Oklahoman - Pickens’ Role in OSU Investments

What many people don’t know is the increasing role Pickens is playing in the management of certain financial investments that help support the university.

So far, OSU golf has been the largest beneficiary. Holder said it would be ideal if other OSU athletic programs could take advantage of Pickens’ skills, but their financial needs for facilities and operations are so great that practically every donated dollar is spent as soon as it arrives.

The nonprofit group had two paid officers last year. Holder served as president and was paid $150,000. Mike McGraw served as secretary/treasurer and was paid $50,000. Holder was the men’s golf coach at the time and McGraw was the women’s coach.

McGraw was named men’s coach this year after Holder became athletic director. The salaries they received from OSU Cowboy Golf were in addition to their university salaries.

Normally having Pickens on the board would prevent the group from investing money with his funds, since it would create a conflict of interest. Pickens, however, agreed to waive all management fees. That not only made the investments possible, but boosted potential profits.

Excerpts from “Pickens’ investments earn OSU millions,” The Oklahoman, Sun December 4, 2005

2 Comments

  1. Lee Agnew said,

    December 6, 2005 at 5:53 pm

    I fail to see how Pickens’ waiving his “management fees” removes the conflict-of-interest aspect, if we’re talking about investing in companies Pickens has an interest in. I understand very little of finance at this rarefied level!

    I’m also wondering if we’re seeing an indication of the Daily Oklahoman’s editorial inclincations on this issue. I mean, hey… a high-rolling Texas oil guy, big contributor to many of the Oklahoman’s favorite conservative advocacy groups: what’s for them not to like?

  2. Dr. Ted Douglas said,

    December 6, 2005 at 9:46 pm

    Look into BP Capital further and you’ll find that they were a major contributer to the Swift Boat campaign against Kerry. Now I was a Bush supporter myself, but this puts Oklahoma State as providing funds to a campaign. Also, they probably should look into any contributions made to Tom Delay. By investing University funds with such a company you support causes that maybe a University shouldn’t be supporting.

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Contact the Governor & State Legislators

It is very important that you express your concerns regarding the expansion plan to the Governor and your state legislators and encourage other Oklahoma residents to do the same. You might explain to out-of-area Oklahomans that by making their objections known, they are not only speaking for expansion area property owners, but for all Oklahoma property owners who may be subject to eminent domain for non-essential use in the future. No private property is out-of-reach. When most of the homes in the proposed expansion were built, the area was considered “in-the-country” and “up-scale”. OSU has even taken property west of town, in the floodplain, in recent years.

Speaking from experience, Matthew P. Smith emphasized this course of action in his Letter to the Editor, published in the Stillwater NewsPress, Dec 12, 2005.

The Board of Regents is appointed by the governor. Let the governor know how you feel and how you will vote next election, should the board approve this plan. They are supposed to govern over the land grant universities. The president and CEO of the OSU system, Dr. Schmidly, is supposed to work for them. Make sure the dog is wagging the tail and the tail is not wagging the dog.

Contact the state representatives and senators for this area. Tell them how you feel. Then call your friends and family in other towns in Oklahoma and have them contact their elected officials and let them know they will not get votes in the next election if this goes through. The Legislature appropriates money for OSU every year. The university needs their support and does need the legislators unhappy with them.

Since the Kelo decision, the Supreme Court case regarding the use of eminent domain in Connecticut, it is clear that the primary authority for regulation of eminent domain is the state government.

Now that we’ve been schooled in the fact that state level eminent domain issues will not be addressed by the Federal Supreme Court, but are matters of the state legislative branch, do you think we’ll now see the citizens of Florida stand up for their neighbors who are at risk of being pushed aside? For those of us in other states who have no say in the impending actions at Riviera Beach, Florida, this will be a lesson in how much one state’s citizens care enough to prevent land-robbery in their state.

- Apathy Watch: Florida Case, Valhall, Oct 3, 2005

State officials for the expansion area are listed below. Oklahoma residents outside the area can look up contact information for their officials at Project Vote Smart. Enter 9 digit zip code in search box near upper left corner of home page. There is a link for looking up 9 digit zip code by address, if unknown. List of all officials for zip code 74075-4238, includes biographical info, as well as contact.

Governor & state congresspersons for expansion area

Governor: Brad Henry
Web address: www.gov.ok.gov/message.php
Capitol Address: 2300 N. Lincoln Blvd., Rm 212, Oklahoma City, OK 73105
Voice: (405) 521-2342 Fax: (405) 521-3353

Representative: Terry Ingmire
Email: terryingmire@okhouse.gov Capitol Address: 2300 N. Lincoln Blvd., Rm 301-B, Oklahoma City, OK 73105 (405) 557-7411
District Address: 5713 W. 7th St., Stillwater, OK 74074 (405) 743-2628

Senator Mike Morgan:
Email: bard@oksenate.gov Capitol Address: 2300 N. Lincoln Blvd., Rm 422, Oklahoma City, OK 73105 (405) 521-5565
District Address: 1008 Woodcrest, Stillwater, OK 74074

5 Comments

  1. B.A. McCrary said,

    January 12, 2006 at 5:06 pm

    My parents have lived in their home north of the campus in Stillwater for over 50 years. They built the home of their dreams hoping to raise a family and retire there. That dream almost came true. Their home, and many others nearby are owned, not rented. They are not run down. They share the misfortune of being on the site chosen for the new home being built for the OSU president. My parents are at an age when it is financially, emotionally and physically impossible for them to start over.

    The orange blood runs deep in my family. My parents met when they were young instructors at OSU following WWII. My father spent his career teaching at OSU. His three children hold six degrees from OSU. He has two grandsons attending OSU (they, too, will loose their housing). My parents remain active citizens of the OSU and Stillwater community. However, there is now a deep sense of betrayal in our family.

    My question: How can OSU justify taking the homes of people like my parents to build a new presidental home when there is currently a president’s home sitting on a huge lot just a few blocks north of the newly selected site? Could it be so that a suite for T. Boone will be available when he visits? So that he will have a clear view of his stadium? Can anyone explain the justice in this situation?

  2. Ann Williams said,

    January 12, 2006 at 8:00 pm

    I cannot resist responding to the comment made by B.A.
    I hear so many stories of this same theme. I think we all can deal with life’s tough situations, but feeling so betrayed by what we love is somehow harder to manage.

    We find ourselves feeling betrayed by our country, our city and our university in our property being taken so unneccessairly. It seems to be a “right” that most of us, as strong supporters of and as citizens of the United States of America, our cities, and the alumnae of Oklahoma State University never dreamed would be so trampled. We are being hit by the loss of much we have loved. We are angry, hurt, stressed and grieving. We are losing respect.

    Ed Long, former member of the Board of Regents and a former State Senator said at a meeting I attended that he would like to see a list of all the people in the acquisition area and what they had contributed to the university. He didn’t think it would be much and OSU would not miss them. I am sure he was referring to monetary contributions.

    We have many who have, for years, attended nearly all sporting events of OSU, supported the university through bond issues, projects, activities, pride and through contributions they could afford monetarily. We have many in the area that are either currently teaching at the university or are retired professors.

    It is as if, as Mr. Long suggested, that the feeling of “those in charge” are of the same opionion. How sad for the university we have known and loved for so many years.

    It would be understandable if there was no other way for the campus to progres and expand. I am sure the people in the eminent domain area would have had no qualms about giving their property rights to OSU, if this were the case. Many in the area would have been quite willing to sacrifice for OSU. But OSU has close to 25,000 acres in the Stillwater area on which no taxes are paid. Much of it is vacant land. And we wonder why real estate and property taxes in our City are so high.

    It seems as if worth is measured by OSU in $ only. Even games can be attended by those of “greater means”. But, the real measure in life will be one’s action and one’s soul. I hope we can all remember that.

  3. Marion Agnew said,

    January 12, 2006 at 11:15 pm

    Thank you for that reminder, Ann.

    And I have been meaning for some time to apologize to Craig Buchanan. Craig, I spent several weeks in Stillwater in 2004 and 2005, but your property fight never made it onto my radar screen. I can’t imagine having to go through this great a loss without community support. I’m sorry that OSU treated you with so little respect. I wish I had been paying attention and could have spoken up then.

  4. dr. ted douglas said,

    January 13, 2006 at 9:45 am

    I’ve received word that the city attorney found proof this week that Hall of Fame is a city owned street. We’ll see what Mayor Bud does with that tidbit. The position of Mayor will be up for election this spring. The only names I’ve heard running are Bud Lacy and Martha McMillan, two university employees. Ann, is there any way that you would consider running? I think someone from this area needs to run or maybe we could talk Hank Moore into a run. There needs to be a voice for Stillwater in that position!

    Ann’s reply: I really got a chuckle out of that! And I need one at this point :-) Thanks for the compliment, but that would be waaaaay beyond me. I may not even be in Stillwater to serve a term. I am NOT an “activist”…hard to believe with this, isn’t it. I AM concerned about “politics” and all that is happening in the grand ole US of A, let alone right here in Stillwater, America. Besides, I do not desire to become “corrupt” :-) Also, Hank has been asked, but said he did not feel capable of handling budget issues, etc…..just yet. Maybe we could push him.

  5. Lee Agnew said,

    January 13, 2006 at 12:46 pm

    Hi Barb, good to hear from you; wish it could have been under better circumstances…

    The “New President’s House” is a new wrinkle for me; I can’t find it on either of the Master Plan “Project Lists.” But then, I used to think that your folks would get a reprieve, since they’re located in the “20-year” area rather than the “Immediate acquisition” area. Guess I was wrong?

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Hooked on Sports

“Thoughts to ponder”.
Oklahoma State University holds 45 National Titles in sporting events. WOW!!! Are we alums proud of that? YOU BETCHA. Let’s examine this, me thinks….
33 National Titles are held by our outstanding Wrestling team…..need I go further?
Being the “cool cat” that I am, this got my curosity goin’. What is the secret of the Wrestling program’s success?….. Must be FANCY FACILITIES. So I asked an OSU alum, a wrestler in the 60’s when Gallagher arena was packed to the gills with fans, “Do you know how our wrestling facilities compare with other big 12 schools?” His reply, “I really can’t tell you how they compare today, but when I was on the team, our facilities didn’t even compare to many HIGH SCHOOLS in the state”. And they were still able to win National Titles? Impossible. Hummmm, could it be that it is NOT luxury facilities? Could it be that it has to do with attitude, tradition, coaches, dedication by the athletes, abilities? What a thought! And even though Gallagher-Iba is not packed with fans these days, and there is very little publicity and praise given to this program; these guys just keep winning those championships. Congrats, guys. You have overcome!!!! Guess that’s what some folks call “makin’ a purse out of a sow’s ear.

Another thought to ponder: Kansas University’s football team has had indoor practice facilities for several years……….. Need I say more?

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  1. Marion Agnew said,

    December 5, 2005 at 8:55 pm

    How much was spent on the football stadium at Lewis Field ? And it’s not packed? And Allie P. Reynolds Stadium — how often is it sold out?

    Yet they want to put more money into facilities, including new baseball stadiums.

    That sound you hear is me smacking my forehead with my palm. In what way does this land acquisition make any sense at all?

  2. Cathy said,

    December 6, 2005 at 11:16 am

    I am probably behind on the news. Is it correct that Oklahoma State does NOT have sufficient funds to complete the new football stadium? That Holder has decided to leave it unfinished until attendance is higher and there is more money available for completion? If that is true it just doesn’t make any sense to spend funds to buy up homes and rental properties when there is also insufficient money for developing that land. What is really going here? Does the University want this property for an Athletic Village or are they just trying to move parking and rental income from Stillwater property owners to the University’s balance sheet?

  3. Marion Agnew said,

    December 6, 2005 at 9:47 pm

    My brother got a call on behalf of the OSU foundation just tonight, asking if he’d like to donate to the fund for completing T. Boone Pickens stadium. So apparently it’s true — not only is the current stadium unfinished and unfunded, but the more recent gift is just for buying up land (that was confirmed at one of many of the city or homeowners’ meetings).

    I think the OSU administration is excited at the thought of “big money” and, frankly, has lost its marbles. I know of no rational explanation.

  4. James P. Sullivan said,

    December 7, 2005 at 4:09 pm

    As a business onwer (not in Stillwater) I understand OSU’s thinking. Currently game days hold isolated events - people come to town for the game, then leave. An athletic village is a great idea to create a tourist destination and get people to stick around for more than the game. This is not about the current number of people in the stands, this is about business expansion. If my business was located in Stillwater, I would be supporting this 100%! I would want people in town all day long, to stay the weekend, or even to visit when there is no game.

    Anytime you have growth, you will displease a small percentage of the people.This is very unfortunate, but in every case, this small minority is very vocal. The vocal people keep talking about displacing the elderly. Perhaps OSU should build a retirement village near campus and offer the displaced eldery very favorable rental pricing. The money the displaced people get for their money should be more than ebough to cover their reduced rate rents for 10 years at least. Mush of the soon-to-be condemned property is dilapted - an OSU village would offer new, safer, more efficient living conditions.

  5. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    December 7, 2005 at 6:21 pm

    How easily you put forth a solution without knowing the circumstances of each and every elderly resident. Why should a elderly longtime homeowner give up a cherished home that is mortgage free for a rental in a retirement home, it does not make any sense. Most senior citizens are proud to be self reliant and want to stay in their homes as long as possible. I take issue with your statement that most of the “soon to be condemned property” is dilapidated , my mothers home is well maintained as well as her neighbors homes. This is not a small minority, this is a large chunk of Stillwater real estate that will impact all of Stillwater with property tax loss, loss of school funds and create incredible traffic problems. Most homeowners and rental property owners will not receive enough funds to be in the same shape they were before the property takeover and in this tight market will not be able to purchase similar properties without paying more out of pocket. This is also a moral issue, is it right for a University to be able to disrupt homeowners lives for a project that will benefit so few. I expected my University to exhibit a higher moral stature, the way this process has been handled has been deplorable and has created loss of respect and trust that will take years to repair. These views are shared by many Stillwater Citizens, not just those residents in the affected areas.

  6. Greg Swaim said,

    December 7, 2005 at 7:41 pm

    I have a bachelors (Economics ‘84) and masters (Geography ‘90) degree from OSU and have lived in Dallas and Enid, but wanted to come back to Stillwater because of sports.

    I broadcast a daily sports radio show on a network of three stations and see that a high number of retired OSU alumni have moved back to Stillwater because of athletics and there are a large number of OSU alumni I’ve come into contact with over the years that wish they could move back to Stillwater.

    I do understand that many of the people who are writing in have a disdain for athletics (it shows) and so are against anything Boone Pickens, Mike Holder or anyone in athletics does to improve our program, so it’s not surprising when you now have a “cause” like the land acquisition that you take advantage of it.

    I would imagine that in any project of this magnitude that there are people who are displaced, but there are just a handful of owners in this entire area that actually live on their property, so you’re wasting your breath.

    To be honest, it looks like a good number of the posters on this site would be better suited to living in Berkely, CA…I’ll help you pack!!

    {*From the moderator: I have allowed your comment only because it is one of the very few “Pro” comments we have received. This comment barely slipped by “requirements to the site”. Your hostile remark regarding helping posters to this site to move, is somewhat like saying you’d like to get rid of them. I believe from reading all the comments, that most of the posters are very much for the athletes and their programs. Perhaps you failed to read what they are saying.

    Had you been at the Board of Regents meeting, you would have heard ALL the speakers supporting OSU in their endeavors to become, not only academically competitive with the other Big 12 schools, but atheletically as well. Many are HUGE supporters of ALL OSU sports, and have been for more years than you have seen of life. However, they are opposed tothe current plan and to not using properties OSU already owns, rather than taking other’s property.

    The current proposed plan, including Washington Street {the strip} becoming a canal, tax loss to the City, closing of main arteries in the city that our taxpayers funded, etc., all will cause an even greater tax burden to our citizens. Most are concerned for OSU AND the CITY of Stillwater as a whole.

    I am one of those “retired” that has moved back to Stillwater. I grew up here. I did not return just for OSU sports, but I do hold season tickets for football, women’s basketball, softball, baseball, and wrestling. I also am on the waiting list for men’s basketball tickets and will stand in the cold to buy them before each game. I have attended Equestrian events and women’s soccer games as well. I have always been ORANGE through and through.}

  7. Cathy said,

    December 7, 2005 at 8:57 pm

    James, I don’t understand how an Athletic Village for OSU athletes, basically practice fields and training rooms, is going to keep tourists in town? Can you explain?

  8. Dr. Ted Douglas said,

    December 7, 2005 at 9:53 pm

    It is funny how those from outside of Stillwater don’t understand how the University is being run and its priorities. OSU has had a retirement village planned now for probably close to 3 years. Obviously the priority is for recruiting athletes. The university could have chosen to use the money to complete the retirement village and then move on to the village. The construction of the village has nothing to do with tourism or activities to surround game days. If anything the master plan will do away with one of the favorite activities surrounding game day, that is tailgating. Part of the master plan is to build underground parking around the stadium and the multilevel parking garage at Hall of Fame and Monroe. No, this plan will not attract additional fans to Stillwater, and the fans that do come for the games may actually stay for less time than they did in the past.

  9. Trude Coonrad Naff said,

    December 7, 2005 at 11:02 pm

    James–

    The whole idea of displacing long-time residents is disgusting not only to those directly affected, but to the majority of the citizens, OSU faculty, students, and city officials of Stillwater. Contrary to your belief, the property north of Boone Pickens stadium is not “soon-to-be-condemned” — we’ve only just begun!

    You state this is not about the number of people in the stands, but about business expansion. Where in the Constitution does it grant any entity the right to just take whatever is in its way at someone else’s expense and loss for “business expansion.” That is not the basis for the exercise of eminent domain.

    So you think an “athletic village” will be a tourist destination when it is not a game day? Perhaps you’ve really hit the nail on the head — the whole idea is more akin to the building of an amusement park than something for the good of the university.

    I’m curious — when are you planning to move your business to Stillwater?

  10. Dr. Ted Douglas said,

    December 8, 2005 at 8:28 am

    Mr. Swaim, I listen to your show very often and I’m a long time season ticket holder in football, basketball and wrestling. I love Cowboy sports and I’ve even taken in a Cowgirls basketball game this year. I watched as our number 1 rated recruiting class went down to the wire with Northwestern monday night. I was amazed with 2 minutes left in the game as people were leaving, don’t they know our head coach is Eddie Sutton? So don’t judge my comments and think that I am anti-sports. If you read most of the threads the overiding theme is that OSU has the land already available to do what they want with the athletic village. They have the ability to do what they want, however, Boone Pickens wants to do things his way and he is used to getting his way. The fact is, we had a number 1 recruiting class in basketball because of our coaching staff. Eddie Sutton, James Dickey, Sean Sutton what kid wouldn’t want to play for these men? How about John Smith? Kids love to wrestle for him. Mike Gundy? Who? While it appears we have a fairly good class going right now, we’ll know within 2 games next year whether the young man that has coached at powerhouse programs like Baylor and Maryland will become a legend. Now as a professional, you HAVE to admit that if Boone had spent the money to bring Steve Spurrier here we would have won 7 or 8 games this year and would be well on the way to winning a Big 12 South title next year. Ask Myron Roderick, you’re related to him, how were his facilities? Boone would have helped the university far more by giving us 15 million a year for a REAL coaching staff. So don’t stereotype us as anti-athletics. Heck, even Tamera Maschino had come home to her alma mater for Football Homecoming. She had no idea at the time that her mother’s house had a target painted on it by famed corporate raider Boone Pickens. So Go Pokes! Go build your athletic village at McElroy and Western!

  11. Greg Swaim said,

    December 8, 2005 at 9:07 am

    So I barely “met the requirements” of posting, yet you can make fun of OSU’s president and greatest supporter (and yes, Picken’s gave millions to academics before he even gave a dime to athletics) and it’s o.k?

    {From moderator: I don’t recall any posts susggesting getting rid of the president or OSU greatest athletic supporter, or helping them to pack or such. I do recall comments regarding Boone “running the university”, but that does have some validity. I could be wrong, wouldn’t be the first time, but please point out to me the comment to which you are referring. And thanks for your imput concerning athletes being for the plan….do they care where it is located? We would love to have imput from the athletes themselves. I am serious, this is NOT scarcasm.}

  12. Cathy said,

    December 8, 2005 at 11:22 am

    Greg Swaim wrote - “I do understand that many of the people who are writing in have a disdain for athletics (it shows) and so are against anything Boone Pickens, Mike Holder or anyone in athletics does to improve our program, so it’s not surprising when you now have a “cause” like the land acquisition that you take advantage of it.”

    Interesting that you posted your comment regarding the “disdain for athletics” in this thread, “Hooked on sports.” I know that many people posting are, in fact, OSU sports fans. Some posters feel strongly that academics should have priority over athletics, but I haven’t seen a “disdain for athletics” in any of these posts. It does seem that most of the property owners in the proposed expansion area feel that their rights of private property ownership outweigh the need for OSU to raze their homes and build practice fields and parking lots rather than making use of available undeveloped land.

  13. Craig Buchanan said,

    December 8, 2005 at 11:38 am

    James,

    The reason those in the minority are vocal is because they were dumb enough to believe we have rights in this country. We thought in the 1700’s we were fighting for equal protection under the law. We thought when men like Gadsden yelled to the British “Don’t Tread on ME”, signed a piece of paper, and then fought for the principal that it was going to be upheld.
    Unfortunately too many in our country believe like you. The good of a cultural elite (athletes, rich, business, etc) are now more important than the rights that were fought for all those years ago. We have traded royalty for celebrity, and in the process we have now given away what we struggled so hard to get.

    p.s. The fact that several of you might need to look up who Gadsen is just illustrates my point. We do not teach history in this country any more, or what we had to do to get the freedoms we are increasingly loosing.

  14. Craig Buchanan said,

    December 8, 2005 at 12:07 pm

    Greg,

    Since you have economics degrees, maybe you can do what OSU was unable to do. Give us an economic analysis of how this will even keep the city revenue neutral. While you are at it, maybe you can also prove how the university can afford to go ahead with this project and still be able to keep the same level of services to the students. When 3 different studies all showed that it would require increases in fees or more layoffs the president said we disagree, but said he had no numbers to back it up.

    I would be willing to grant the positive economic impacts if you (or anyone else) can prove it. I will never, however, be persuaded that it is proper under the laws or spirit of our country. We might allow taking private property for athletes in our state laws, but just because it is legal it is not right.

    Lastly, just because I do not want to send the national guard or the county deputies to remove people from homes or business they have had for generations does not mean I am anti athlete. I currently work for a former OSU football player. Before OSU took my house I loved to walk down the street to watch baseball games. I loved that I could walk to football games. My friends would have tailgate parties from my yard since you could listen to the play by play over the loud speaker. You might find that most that live this close to the stadium did not hate the athletic department until it started using its celebrity status to justify violating peoples constitutional rights. Ask yourself this. Would I be justified in building a movie theater on the land one of your houses is on? If I paid you less than you have been paying taxes on in exchange would it make you feel any better? You talk about having multiple homes, but several of us did actually live in our houses as well as using them for rental income. We are not rich enough to move to one of our other houses. This is a sentiment that so incensed me in OSU lawyer that I had to deal with in my case. He keep saying things that reminded me of “just move to one of your other houses.” Well, many of us do not have multiple houses or if we do the other house is in the area as well. Since you have 2, why don’t you just give one of them to one of the elderly in this area. That would do a lot to put your dedication to this project to the test.

  15. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    December 8, 2005 at 12:26 pm

    Most Stillwater natives and alumni are avid OSU supporters including my family. We planned a huge homecoming weekend with family coming in from Oklahoma and Texas, and Colorado for the festivities starting with the walk around Displays Friday night and culminating in a birthday party on Sunday at Hideaway. Mom even cooked an early Thanksgiving meal for everyone Friday, and we also went to Stillwater restaurants. We gladly purchased tickets at a price of $108 per seat for the game. That weekend we purchased OSU apparel and blankets at almost $300total. The weekend spent in Stillwater costs well over $1500plus and does not include air fare, rental cars, etc. . If that isnt an example of supporting OSU then I dont know what is. If you multiply that by all the other families living in this area that also support OSU then you are coming up with incredible amounts. This was the week before my mom received her letter from Cinnabar.

    That is why this is such a slap in the face to our families, after years of loyalty, the total disregard for longtime residents and OSU supporters is unbelievable. We do not feel disdain for the Sports Program, we feel disdain for the lack of consideration OSU has shown to its neighbors to implement a
    massive life changing master plan without solicitng true input from the community. OSU wants to change the very charm and spirit of Stillwater instead of respecting its history and people. These plans to remove homes and businesses, close streets, change the Strip and Downtown have got to slow down and allow comments . True community planning involves all parties, that has been lacking here.

    We have received many supportive phones calls from the community and alumni and many have expressed that they are now reluctant to purchase more OSU logo items, or support OSU during this time. They dont want those dollars to go towards removing people from their homes.

  16. Trude Coonrad Naff said,

    December 8, 2005 at 2:11 pm

    My husband, Peter Naff, attended OSU on a wrestling scholarship. He was third in the Big 8 (191 lb) and a member of OSU’s 1968 wrestling team that won the National Championship despite the fact that their workout room was in an old converted classroom. We own property in the affected area. We are not conflicted with the issues at hand. We know from experience that sports are important to a university. We also know what is important to sports are the individuals who make the team — individuals who are talented, dedicated, intelligent, and of high moral character. Perhaps the football team should take a lesson from the wrestling team — know what is truly important and you’ll be winners no matter what.

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  1. David Demezas said,

    December 2, 2005 at 9:55 am

    Has anyone tried to obtain a loan to purchase a house in the Washington Heights (between W. Eskridge and W. Graham) / Knapp Street area west of Washington? Or do you know of anyone who has tried to obtain a loan? Were they successful or was the bank hesitant? A person attending the Tuesday Meeting at the Library mentioned to me that she was aware of a family who was interested in buying a house on Knapp and their loan was denied because, to paraphrase “the bank was hesitant to make loans for purchases in this area because of the uncertainty of the situation with the OSU expansion.”

    I spoke to another resident on W. Knapp about her upcoming retirement. She said she was going to hold off because “my house is tanked” meaning that she doesn’t feel she will be able to sell it promptly. She mentioned that there has been a house on the market on this same street for many months when before the Master Plans were released, houses were selling within the month. Admittingly, there may be other reasons this house has not sold quickly. But this does raise a concern to residents in this area who had plans to move and need to sell there house.

  2. Doris Friedle Stokes said,

    December 2, 2005 at 11:56 am

    I find Benham’s list of stakeholders on this website very interesting. Working in Human Resources for the last 20 years or so, it appears to me that Benham’s list of stakeholders is lacking participation from a key group, the homeowners impacted. The typical definition of stakeholders consists of key individuals and groups that are a part of or will become a part of any initiative from start to finish. Typical pitfalls in engaging key stakeholders include lack of political sensitivity, assuming that everyone will automatically be supportive, underestimating the resistance, not considering the impact of the change from the viewpoint of those affected, change planned in isolation. It appears to me that a group of key stakeholders has been ignored during the inception and now in the execution of this project. Why would the University who gained it’s initial momentum to become a university from these stakeholders basically ignore them in this process? Don’t our taxes support this institution, doesn’t their support come from these stakeholders they are impacting?

  3. doug emde said,

    December 2, 2005 at 4:27 pm

    I find it interesting that a bank would redline a neighborhood. That is one of the 3 big no no’s when it come to fair housing laws. Knap is nowhere near the expansion area. Even if the loan were within the targeted area, the bank would have their appraisal and they would loan up to 95% of the FMV, so they would get their money back. Something fishy is going on and if one bank won’t loan the money go to another.

  4. Doug Emde said,

    January 9, 2006 at 8:44 pm

    I find it interesting that up until now all of the press releases referred to the Bond purchase as being 20% of the land being sought. Finally, someone within the foundation realized that the 20% number will not work with a budgeted 30 million dollars for purchase. Has anyone else noticed that now the University is quoting the Bond purchase as being 40% of the market value of the targeted area. {Moderator’s note: I believe the foundation has said that the Bond property represents 20% of the overall plan from campus thru Eskridge but 40% of property from campus to South of McElroy..the immediate plan.}

    Now what is really disturbing is the foundation giving the Adlers 62,000 for a their house that was appraised by the Payne County assessor at $91000. {Moderator’s note: You are right. The “bonus” paid in the amount of $300.00 for each year they lived in their home and an additional amount for moving expenses are NOT counted as “sale” price and therefore not considered as a part of the “fair market” value.} The assessor is bound by law to appraise all properties within the county at fair market value and the foundation ignored this and took their appraiser’s opinion of market value. I have seen one appraisal by a company out of all places Jenks. Now what experience a Jenks appraiser has valuing property in a university town I do not know. I do know this, the appraiser missed two comparable sales within 5 blocks of the subject which would have given a higher indication of value. These kind of significant errors occur when you hire appraisers not familiar with Stillwater and that are not members of the Stillwater Multiple Listing service.

  5. Tamara Colbert Maschino said,

    January 9, 2006 at 11:53 pm

    This really makes our family hesitant to have any appraisals done, apparently all the talk about being fair to residents and listening to their needs is just that “all talk”. The changing figures on the Bond percentage is disturbing, how will that impact our properties.

    I find the $300 amount of bonus per year insulting and unbeliveable paltry for longtime residents . When we first heard of the bonus per year, our family wondered if this was a smoke and mirrors approach that would be taken from the homes appraisal. This is not the time for OSU to make errors on comparable sales, this is the time for them to be generous with these retirees. We have talked with families living south of McElroy who do not know what they will do, where they will live , or how they will make this work out. Some of the seniors were unclear on what was happening to them, I am afraid they will be pushed into decisions that are unfair to them.

  6. Marion Agnew said,

    January 10, 2006 at 12:13 pm

    With the new announcement of $165 million from T Boone Pickens, OSU should be able to pay each homeowner $100,000 minimum, plus some kind of “signing bonus.”

    WILL OSU do anything remotely resembling that? No.

  7. Pam Poe said,

    January 10, 2006 at 2:15 pm

    165 Million!! Imagine that announcement a week before the Regents are to meet and perhaps approve the Master Plan … it’s all but approved now. I guess everyone in the 5 to 20 year plan better be preparted to sell quicker than we thought! Unbelievable!!!

  8. Marion Agnew said,

    January 10, 2006 at 3:00 pm

    If the Regents approve this plan, they’re committing OSU to decades of scrambling to support a risky plan with an unquantifiable and uncertain payoff.

    Holder and Regents Chair Burns Hargis were both clear that the $165 million pays only for facilities — it doesn’t include any ongoing maintenance, like keeping the lights and air conditioning on and the grass cut. The $35 million of OSU’s current athletic budget can’t support this. Both of them emphasized that the alumni and other people in the OSU Family will have to step up whatever they’ve been giving. Presumably ticket prices will go up. Presumably faculty salaries and student financial support won’t catch up to the national average.

    It’s very tempting to give up and say “it’s a done deal.” But it’s still a bad deal. And it’s still important to continue to point that out to the Regents, the elected officials, and the Governor.

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